My Spiritual Journey Beyond the Walls of the Church
Interview by Ruth Perry of Beautiful Kingdom Builders
This week, I received a beautiful gift from Ruth Perry over at The Beautiful Kingdom Builders - the interview linked above.
My spiritual worldview has expanded exponentially since I began this journey as a young adult. While it started inside the church walls, my journey was fueled by a vision of a world beyond walls - where we are all one big beautiful community.
This interview covers a lot of ground. Starting with my unchurched upbringing to my first experiences of the Christian tradition, I share with Ruth how I found my way from accounting to ministry inside the walls of the church. That journey led me to seminary, where I was introduced to the missional church and contemplative movements. It was at the intersection of these streams that I found the Asset-Based Community Development approach.
ABCD provided me with a methodology for holding together the missional vision and contemplative practices in a way that cultivates rich, vibrant communities. The process nurtures contemplative activists who listen deeply for where the spirit is moving and then join in. This faith-informed approach to cultivating community moves us beyond walls of separation and across bridges of division.
I encourage you to check out the full post along with the transcript here. I also highly recommend you subscribe to The Beautiful Kingdom Builders publication and watch the previous interviews. They are all excellent, but if you have to choose one, I would recommend the interview with kathy escobar.
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Conversations like ours was exactly why I wanted to start a podcast! Thank you, Wendy, for sharing your story, even the vulnerable parts. I'm inspired to get outside the four walls of the church and start making a difference in my community!! <3